The 20mb Doctor Who Podcast #134
Oct 1st, 2012 by the20mbdoctorwhopodcast
The Angels take Manhatten by Steven Moffat
Adam, Mary, Robert, Kirby and Rhys commentate on the last of this little series of Doctor Who. We also get the opinions and comments from our largest collection of contributers so far. Thank you and long may it continue. There is a bit of a split opinion on this week's show.
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Oct 2, 2012 at 4:08 am
In terms of the Angels and the Farm- They clearly say they are farming them (mention a “nest” so i imagine this is to help with the breeding of cherubs) and sending them back over and over, RATHER than a one shot
They have them in the building same reason keep any cattle in pens; so they’re easy to get to and cant runaway. They didn’t say ppl couldn’t leave city, though if one escaped they are now controlling all the statues so they’d zip them back to Hotel.
I also imagine they just bring food to them, same way they set up doors to be automatic, and same with the lift.
They also always have eyes on Liberty as its so big, and always in field of view.
It isn’t a paradox (something that cant happen or make logical sense) if he sees his older self, that’s a time loop just like with the book; destined to grow old in building and one day see young self turn up just like the Old Detective at start. Its Kyle from Terminator and Doctor from S5 finale with his Fez and broom.
Its time energy, no paradox energy Angel eats, the time they leave behind in the present up to when they were originally meant to die.
The Paradox UNdid everything, transporting them back to cementary- tied causally according to doctor. Everyone else killed by the Angels probably were brought back too.
Amy is distracted by Rory and Grave, Camera acting as POV with Rory covering the Angel. Its cinematic trope that objects people can appear without being seen or heard before hand. In terms of Liberty that something that was kinda a Joke imo, which Moffat said in interview was brought up by someone b4 in past.
They say Angel was broken and not strong enough to send her in time.
Angels haven’t changed, the lights in the building were flickering.
An Angel managed to survive, just like they did, and there was a cherub in present, so possibly Angel also. I don’t think it was a mistake or chance Rory was sent back. He possibly could have been originally in Present.
Check out “Night and Doctor” from DVD of S06 and online. They’re set in Season 6 and show that Dr is on adventure with River between episodes and its established in Impossible Astronaut they’ve been on many adventures (Post 200 years jump)
Angels in Blink was a small group, and if i remember correctly, implied to be from dieing species. In S05 the Angels in caverns were old and dieing and The angel on ship brought it there to revive them. The angels were hurt to begin with (hence no time travel) and later had another source of energy and not needing to time-zap them.
I also was wondering about Mels in past, and why not bring that in. Its possible that could still come later
Eggs- “Nest” prehaps
